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The person who calls herself Kim Yoon Mi or Hitsuji or whatever made some awfully vitriolic comments about me, my arguments, and my interpretation methods in a certain forum thread. My comments are included:
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Ian Miller is really not too bright at times-- he's not a reliable source to go off of. He has the same problem as SOS. When he's proven wrong he can't take it.

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Oh, look at the personal attacks. If I am proven wrong with actual evidence, then I would capitulate. However, you can claim that you have proven me wrong all you want, but if you have not actually done that, I will not accept your claims over mine. I have been proven wrong before. For instance, I used to think that Ptilol's name should be spelled "Pucherol" because of the idea that the name derived from the mineral name Pucherite. However, I later found out on my own that the name derives from the mineral names Clinoptilolite or Ptilolite. So, yeah, I will listen if I am been proven wrong. My greatest opponent is actually myself. In fact, I am in a constant struggle of finding information that would refute my claims. That is a method common to the scientific method.
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Like once he said that the Ginzuishou was wrongly interpreted as the mystical silver crystal. (That was on the now defunct Sailormoon.org)

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It would be nice if you actually provided direct quotations from me. Without direct quotations, it is too easy to misrepresent what other people say. At any rate, "Ginzuishou" does not mean "mystical silver crystal," anyway, so I am safe.
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I prooved him wrong and he didn't take it well. He didn't say I was right, he didn't change the info and admit he was wrong, I rather think he sulked.

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I did not change the info and admit I was wrong because, as far as I could tell, I was not wrong. No sulking was necessary.
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I said that the full name of the crystal was the Maboroshi no Ginzuishou. I bothered to scan the text, and then I went to an on-line Japanese dictionary, backed it up with other Japanese dictionaries, and said, that Maboroshi meant Mystical/ Illusion/ Phantom...

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I do not think I would have denied any of that, so it looks like you are attacking a strawman.
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This has happened multiple times with multiple people I know too. I could name them, but I won't do it out in public.

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Yes, I know how it goes. One person makes a particular claim, I reject it because of little or no evidence, and the person claims that he or she "prove me wrong" and says that I am being stubborn because I will not accept that claim. If not accepting unsupported claims is an example of stubbornness, then I suppose that scientists are also stubborn because they will not consider astrology a legitimate science.
Now if you actually proved me wrong, and I do not capitulate, then you would have a point.
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I have debated the issue with him before, and he tends to sulk a lot in my opinion, especially when I ask him for multiple sources.

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I have no problem gathering multiple sources for my claims. In fact, you can just look at the numerous sources that I have used for the articles for my sites.
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Like his thesis that the Egyptain language didn't have any vowels at all. This is also wrong, the vowels are indicated, rather than written.

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This is a perfect example of the strawman fallacy. It would have been nice if you actually provided a direct quotation where I allegedly claim that the Egyptian language had no vowels. That is particularly stupid claim, but then again, strawman attacks are designed to make your opponent's argument particular stupid so that it is easier to attack.
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He's more bent on winning the argument rather than looking at all sides of the argument and coming to a good solid conclusion.

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No, I am concerned about finding the truth, whether my arguments are valid or not. If my arguments are invalid and untrue, and they can be shown to be invalid and untrue without moronic semantic debates and various other forms of sophistry, then I have no choice but to modify my arguments.
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I can point to a specific case where his conclusions led him down the wrong path as well. He said that my "real" name had to be Kim Yoon Mi, and then called me Kim. Now, I'm sorry to say that's entirely wrong. He ASSUMED because my name in my e-mail header said Kim Yoon Mi, that that must be my "real name". Anyone with Web Savvy knows that name is irrelevant and can be changed at any time. I'm sorry to say too that Kim isn't my given name either in Korean. It's the surname.

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Again, you do not cite any direct quotations from me. Could it be that you are just attacking more strawman?
I did refer to you as "Kim" in a certain section of my site, but that was done for the sake of convenience. Whether it was your real name was not relevant, as you said. I needed to call you something, and I did not know your real name. There is nothing wrong with someone else using a pretend surname even if it is not your real surname. If I claimed that "Kim" were (notice the use of the subjuctive mood here) your real surname, then you would have a point.
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However, with the lack of research and the jumping to conclusions, he came up with the fact that my given name must be Kim. Anyone can see the fault in that logic.

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And with the strawman fallacy, you can come up with the fact that I made such a claim. Anyone should see the fault in that reasoning.
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Also, it must be said that is not my name on my passport.

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So? Must it be if I am going to call you something for the sake of convenience?
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He also got frustrated when I blocked him because I found he was annoying, and then posted my e-mails to him specifically, analyzed them and did it without my permission.

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I was not aware that I need your permission. DIES GAUDII has this as an official policy: "Feel free to send me feedback. Please understand that all submissions (e-mail messages, chatroom messages, et cetera) become my property. Submissions may be published or reused in any other medium."
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All in all, when I asked him for support, and he couldn't give me any specific support and I proved him wrong, he wouldn't take it.

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Here you go again with the unsupported ad hominem attacks.
The only thing that you have proven is that you have no shame in using strawmen versions of my arguments and methods.
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I've other cases with him on this too. I can say them more specifically, but I don't want to sound like I'm griping about a person that's not currently in the thread. It's rude. I'm only pointing out the illogic in his thoughts, and discounting him as a reliable source.

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No, you are attacking strawmen and throwing around ad hominem attacks. You are doing exactly what you say you do not want to do: sound like you are griping about a person who is not currently in the thread.
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As for the thread, the thing at the bottom was not supported by Takeuchi-sensei. In 1999, as reported at the Black Moon Site, which I can provide the link for, it was said (and I have first hand witnesses to back this up.) that she said it was complicated. Not that she was Sailor Moon. ^_^ Go e-mail Stuart Levy of Tokyopop and he'll be able to back that up as well, since he translated for her.

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And I have a first-hand witness to back up the claim that she did say that Sailor Cosmos is essentially a future version of Sailor Moon: Hans Schumacher. He has a recording of the interview. People forget about details over time, but I would rather trust someone who can actually listen to what was said at the time.
It is interesting that you say that have first hand witnesses to back the claim up, but you do not name any of them except Stuart Levy. You say that Stuart Levy would (or could?) be able to back your claim up as well, but has he already stated (prior to your post) that Ms. Takeuchi did not say that Sailor Cosmos was a future version of Sailor Moon?
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Now, if you are reading the Tokyopop versions, it was mistranslated. Even Alex Glover, who originally translated the manga for fans doesn't think that the manga tells it in outright. (I have that e-mail too.) Though he believes one thing, he cannot support it enough with the manga to make it feasible.

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Then read the manga and look at the pictures. Sure, nobody says, "YES! YES! THAT'S RIGHT! SAILOR COSMOS IS A FUTURE VERSION OF USAGI!" in the manga, but how else can one interpret the "me of here" section of the manga without throwing out parsimony?
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Even Usagi and Mamoru Dot com's webmistress Rajan, whom a lot of people look to to suypport this theory, also admits that is true.

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Even well-respected people can be mistaken. You can be mistaken. I can also be mistaken.
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There has been NO direct quote from takeuchi-sensei about Sailor Cosmos being Sailor Moon.

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Or at least one that you wish to admit.
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As such, the argument on either side has no foundation.

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Then it opens a whole bunch of questions about the "me of here" part of the manga:
If Usagi or Chibi Chibi are not important to that picture, then what point is there to show them at all? When it comes to Usagi and Chibi Chibi, who was trying to make whom "choose the right path this time?" Who looks like she is supporting whom? Is Sailor Cosmos not referring to herself as the one who is doing the supporting while she is referring to the "me of here" in the third person?
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I read it from original Japanese basically, and there is no real support to say it outright.

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Oh, it is "outright" now? That is your criteria? If it is, then you are just going to dismiss any evidence in favor of the claim that Sailor Moon is a future version of Sailor Cosmos so long as it is not an "outright" statement? What about the idea of coming up with a "good solid conclusion"? Does that mean "beyond a reasonable doubt" such that it is something we know the creator would say "outright"? Is the concept of "preponderance of the evidence" good enough? What about Occam's Razor? Are you going to commit the usual fallacy and dismiss Occam's Razor as some kind of illogical appeal to simplicity? Even if there is no "smoking gun" or "outright" statement in favor of one particular side, does that necessarily mean that both (or all) sides are of equal strength? No, not necessarily. Some sides make sense, others do not. Some have more evidence to back them up, others lack evidence and good reasoning. Saying that we cannot say something "outright" is not the same as saying that either side has no foundation.
It is annoying when people think that when a particular claim isn't backed up by some kind of "smoking gun" or "outright proof," that means the claim has no foundation, and there is nothing to support it. It's some kind of stupid binary logic. So:
absolute proof = 1
no foundation = 0
According to that reasoning, claims are either 1 or 0. And if all of the claims are < 1, then all of the claims are 0, and are equal.
It is a false dilemma: either something can be said "outright," or it has no foundation. However, that is not good reasoning. After all, we have not directly observed electrons doing their thing to bring about electricity, and we cannot say "outright" that is how electricity comes about, but that does not mean that the claim has no foundation!
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If it was as easy as She's Sailormoon, then in 1999 Takeuchi-sensei would have said so.

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Well, at least one first-hand witness, with a recording, says that she did say that.
Her "Ian Miller" page
It looks like this person has an entire page dedicated to me. Some of the comments on that page are similar to the comments she made in that forum thread. I have looked at some of the things she claims that I've said, and it turns out that she has said many bald-faced lies about me.
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What I do object to, is being corrected by a person who not only can't verify their information, but I find to be incorrect at large points. This would be Mr. Miller.

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I provide citations for my information. Perhaps it is not so much that I do not verify my information as you dismiss the information that I provide (and I have a feeling that I know at least one reason that you dismiss my information).
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Yes, he posted a series of e-mails that he posted without my permission. However, that's not why I am complaining.

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Again, DIES GAUDII has an official policy concerning the reproduction of e-mail messages.
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Ginzuishou, Mr. Miller said, it wasn't the Mystical Silver Crystal, but it was the Silver Water Stone.

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Bald-faced lie and strawman number one!
The individual kanji that are used to write "Ginzuishou" literally mean "Silver Water Stone" as you pointed out, but "Ginzuishou" as a whole means "Silver Crystal." The name does not mean "Mystical Silver Crystal," by the way. "Ginzuishou no Ginzuishou" can be interpreted to mean "Mystical Silver Crystal."
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He says it's Egyptian for cat.

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Bald-faced lie and strawman number two!
I say that
is the Egyptian word for "cat." That is a far cry from "mau."
My information came from
- Raymond O. Faulkner's A Concise Dictionary of Middle Egyptian, page 104
- Sir Alan Gardiner's Egyptian Grammar, Third Edition, Revised, page 568
But never mind me. Perhaps, in your mind, I am not really verifying my information.
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He says that the Egyptians don't have vowels, and that all people have to *guess* the vowels. Again, I did my research, and found that this is wrong. In current Egyptian there are vowels. In the far past, there used to be no vowels. However, later in time, there were vowels added to the alphabet. It wasn't that there were never any vowels, even in ancient Egyptian, it was that it wasn't in the WRITTEN language. There is a large difference in that.

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Bald-faced lie and strawman number three!
Have you even read my site?
http://www.sailormoon.ws/diesgaudii/articles/mates/cite.html
"However, ancient Egyptian writing does not contain characters that represent true vowel sounds. Therefore, Egyptologists are not exactly sure about what vowels could have been in the real ancient Egyptian word. They do use several transliteration systems to approximate the consonant sounds in the ancient Egyptian words."
That's a far cry from "Egyptians don't have vowels" and "all people have to *guess* the vowels."
Sources:
- Maria Carmela Betro, Hieroglyphics: the Writings of Ancient Egypt, page 18
- Sir Alan Gardiner's Egyptian Grammar, Third Edition, Revised, page 26
- James P. Allen's Middle Egyptian, page 18
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He gave one source. I asked him for more sources. He ignored me, and defended his original source. He did this several times, using the same source over and over again, or simply ignored what I addressed in the next e-mail asking for sources. Not too surprisingly he snipped my asking for sources in his posted version of the e-mails.

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(Notice that she doesn't mention what source I provided. She also never explained why the source itself wasn't good enough.)
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Later, afterwards, I found his original source. Not too surprisingly he didn't read the whole passage. The passage states what I said above. I have quite a few books and experts that say this. This includes the leading expert on Egyptain lore, who is regularly on TV.

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(Again, she doesn't name the source.)
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Ian Miller doesn't like to do that. One book on Egyptian lore, one book on Greeks and Romans, and half attempts at prooving what's in the Japanese manga.

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Yet another strawman of my methods. I provide as many sources as possible. You are making it seem as if there is something wrong with using one source.
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Most of the time he tends to hope thaat the other person doesn't have the Japanese manga and can read Japanese. (Since his seems to be poor at times-- he obviously doesn't understand how furigana and katakana work.)

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The articles on my site prove otherwise.
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The last one he really likes to do is: Submarine Violin Tide is not in English-- It's in Japanese.

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More accurately, it is a combination of non-Japanese words approximated by several katakana-character combinations acting as furigana for a combination of kanji. Katakana: "?????·?????·???," kanji: "??????."
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The problem with that is that tons, upon tons of the attacks are in kanji, however, when they are put into the anime they are read in English. Why? It's something called furigana.

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Yes, there are plenty of furigana used in the manga.
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Furigana in Japanese tell you how to read the kanji presented. However, in this case the furigana, they can be wirtten in either kana form. They can be written in hiragana or katakana. The katakana are present in this particular attack which he is refering. They read Submarine Viloin Tide. (sa-bu-ma-ri-n vi-o-ro-n ta-i-do specifically)

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The link to the image is broken. That's okay because I have a scan of the attack here.
As for what the katakana-character combinations actually say, I will explain them:
"?????"
transliteration: Sabumarin
approximating: Submarine
"?????"
transliteration: Vioron
approximating: ???
"???"
transliteration: taido
approximating: Tide
The "?????" ("Submarine") and "???" ("Tide") parts are easy to figure out, but what about the "?????" part? It certainly isn't the English word "Violin" because that word is regularly approximated by the katakana-character combinations "?????" and "??????." Lest you should accuse me of not verifying my information by providing multiple sources, I have more than one source:
- Japanese?English Dictionary: violin
- Jim Breen's WWWJDIC Server: violin
According to the Sanseido Japanese Web Dictionary, "?????" is a variant of "????," which approximates the French word "violon." Unfortunately, the dictionary does not allow me to direct-link to the relevant dictionary entries. (I would not be surprised if you decided to accuse me of not being able to verify that piece of information.) Here is a site that shows a pretty large chart with the English, Italian, French, and German names of various musical instruments and their katakana-character approximations. Here is another one.
Moreover, "?????" is not only an unusual approximation of "Violin," it doesn't approximate that word well. An "o" sound (in "?????") is a far cry from an "i" sound (in "Violin").
For those reasons, I have come to the conclusion that
?????·?????·???
accurately approximates
Submarine Violon Tide
I have that information on my site, but you did not respond to it.
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So I told him this, and he said that this was not true, that it was subjective.

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Bald-faced lie and strawman number four!
Again, that no direct quotations were cited.
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He argued that it was still subjective.

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Here is yet another unsupported claim. This is getting tedious.
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Again, when I sent this info, he ignored it.

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Here is yet another unsupported claim. Look around my site. If I actually believe in what you are accusing me of believing, then it would contradict a large part of what I have written on my site.
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This does not seem like rational behavior.

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Using strawman attacks is not rational behavior.
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He could not back up what he had to say with multiple sources when I asked.

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Well, yeah, what you are accusing me of arguing was not backed up because that was not what I was arguing.
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So he tends to jump to conclusions without backing them up, and then thinks it's true.

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Here is yet another unsupported claim.
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He goes out and forces these opinions on other people

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This is yet another strawman of my methods. I do not "force" my "opinions" on people. If someone says something that I know is incorrect, then I will tell him or her that he or she is mistaken. If a particular argument or theory is weak, I will tell the person why that is.
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and tends to like to pick on newbies who don't know about him

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More often than not, newbies already have been given incorrect information, so in order to lay claims to intellectual honesty, they have to un-learn the misinformation.
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He also uses this to pathetically promote his website.

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Where? How? In my forum signatures? In my e-mail messages? If so, I was not aware that doing that means that I am pathetically promoting my website.
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In one instance, he thought my *real* name was Kim Yoon Mi, and started calling me Kim.

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I already responded to this above. Whether it was your real name or not was not relevant to my site. I wanted to refer to you as something other than "That Person" or something like that. It looks like you are putting words into my mouth and thoughts into my head.
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In such the case he was wrong, he never fixed it, (He was convinced he was right, but who would know, me or him?) and in the end I pointed it out to several people who just rolled their eyes and thought it was amusing.

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Yes, put even more words into my mouth and thoughts into my head. If anyone should be rolling their eyes, it should be the ones who are seeing right through your strawmen.
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So, I conclude by saying, I don't mind when people correct my information on my sites, it's just when people don't back it up with proof that I object. I don't even mind tht much when they don't, it's when they insist that they are right, sulk about it, add and cut info from your e-mails that proove them wrong, and then post your edited e-mail up on their site. Please, if you are considering doing this, grow up!

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Frankly, I do not see why I need your permission to post your e-mail messages on my site. If and only if you keep their comments to yourself do you rightly protect them from my (or anyone else's) scrutiny. No, I do not see why, when you post those comments somewhere I can see them, I should not let other people see your comments and my responses as long as I am not violating Free Use. In many cases, such as this one, people who take the moral high ground are the ones who whine about "maturity" when they're trying to distract others from the fact that their arguments are weak (because of strawmen, lies, et cetera).
After reading your comments about me, I have come to the conclusion that if someone does not provide multiple sources (and exactly how many are necessary is never stated), then that person cannot verify his or her information. Going by such a draconian policy, we should purge the hapax legomena in Latin, Greek, and English dictionaries that are attested by one source each. And what about unique primary sources that other people have not yet cited yet, such as diary entries that have recently come to light? If I found out that the composer Clara Schumann absolutely loved the color purple, and that information appeared in only in a newly-discovered journal entry, is that information unverified? According to your ultra-rigid policy, such information is unverified, and therefore not worthy of consideration. If we use such a policy, then even the sources that we have are not valid, either, if any of them contain any bit of information that comes from one source. Sure, having multiple sources is good, but it is not reasonable to dismiss a claim simply because there is only one source cited. However, implying that I need to provide multiple sources to verify my arguments is a false dilemma ("black and white") fallacy. One piece of evidence is still one piece of evidence.
What particularly bothers me is how you want me to verify my claims with multiple sources, but you have not directly cited anything I have actually said. You have made several major points in your "Ian Miller" site, and all of them have been bald-faced lies. It is disconcerting to know that you go so far as take the moral high ground while lying about me again and again on your site. Even if you decided to admit that you have lied about me, how could we know that you were not also lying about your information about Sailor Cosmos? You tried to discredit me as a reliable source, but instead you have just discredited yourself. You can make yourself seem honorable and righteous as much as you want, but if you lie to me, and I call you on that lie, and I can show you that what you said is a lie, perhaps you have a thing or two to learn about maturity.


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